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Randy Adams
@randy-adams
03/21/10 12:25:32PM
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Well Ken....I don't care about what it's called or the format.....as long as it's done in a welcoming and open-arms manner....& I'm sure it would be.....I'd play as long as I liked the song at hand. What tune are you thinkin' about?
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/19/10 08:55:25PM
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Ken, in a jam a person "calls" a tune. Flint Hill said:
I wanted to say thanks to all who replied. I am feeling sort of stumped and stupid right now -- just got in from a long day working in a pasture.

It does seem like "challenge" is the wrong word, and maybe the wrong concept, even. I'll post again after I've gotten some rest. :)
Flint Hill
@flint-hill
03/19/10 06:55:10PM
62 posts

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I wanted to say thanks to all who replied. I am feeling sort of stumped and stupid right now -- just got in from a long day working in a pasture.It does seem like "challenge" is the wrong word, and maybe the wrong concept, even. I'll post again after I've gotten some rest. :)
folkfan
@folkfan
03/19/10 03:22:00PM
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It sounds as if it would fit into the Group category. A group whose main purpose is to have those involved play a tune and then ask "So how do you play it?" not as a contest, just as a general sharing of music. A "Play it again, Sam" group. If it was in the general posts then it would need it's own category to keep from being lost in other discussions. Sounds like an interesting idea.
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/19/10 02:42:55PM
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I like this idea for a couple of reasons. First, recording one's own play is helpful, instructive. Secondly, listening to the play of others is helpful, instructive. And it's all fun! One thing it'd be good to emphasize, even over-emphasize, is this format is the opposite of a contest; here, players of all levels (not just the best, the professionals, the contest winners, etc.) are encouraged to submit recording.It'd be neat to have a thread where, say, there'd been a 'Pretty Saro' music challenge and one could hear ten different people play (or play & sing) 'Pretty Saro".
Randy Adams
@randy-adams
03/19/10 01:59:06PM
125 posts

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Sound Off is a discussion area where people post their tunes. http://www.banjohangout.org/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=10 Strumelia said:
Randy is that done within a "Sound Off" group , or is "Sound Off" a forum /discussion area?
Strumelia
@strumelia
03/19/10 01:47:28PM
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Randy is that done within a "Sound Off" group, or is "Sound Off" a forum/discussion area?
Randy Adams
@randy-adams
03/19/10 01:26:37PM
125 posts

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At the banjohangout in the Sound Off section occasionally someone will post a tune and ask "Post Yours?" They do it like this for example.Turkey in the Straw Post Yours?It was a real popular thing for a few years, haven't been so many lately....mostly the clawhammer players. It was just an informal thing.Everyone from beginners to pros would post their version of the tune and people were very encouraging, helpful and complimentary.It wasn't competitive at all...or a "challenge."
Strumelia
@strumelia
03/19/10 11:44:59AM
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Ken I think this is a great idea. :)We'd have to figure out how to best implement it.I would heartily back it if you wanted to start a new FOTMD Group for this.But to avoid it getting confused with Vicki's group "Challenged Players" I'd ask that you name it perhaps "FOTMD Music Challenge" or something to that effect- that should make it clear enough.If you started such a group, as you say you would have to have some sort of control over people just posting challenge after challenge of all their favorite songs. Unfortunately I don't think there is a way for a group creator to review or moderate other group members' posts before they are submitted. So some form of challenge rules would have to be spelled out by the group creator in a text box right on the group's home page. You might want to have a separate group 'discussion thread' for each official challenge. In groups, people sometimes start posting on the group's Comment wall rather than in the appropriate discussion, simply because they don't know any better, so that would be a small issue as well.The other option as opposed to forming a Group is to just keep it as discussions on the main FOTMD forums. This might work if I set up a new FORUM CATEGORY for "FOTMD music challenges", and then folks could set up each challenge as a new discussion. Of course this would mean there'd be a whole bunch of challenges to choose from after a while, with really no control over it to keep it structured. Plus, there'd be a limited text description under that forum that no one would see if they went directly to each challenge discussion from the Latest Activity on the main page. There would be less control in a forum setting than a group setting, but less work as well.More input and ideas from everyone?.....
Flint Hill
@flint-hill
03/19/10 08:46:20AM
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"Challenges" are some of the most popular activities on Flickr, a photography-sharing site that I visit every day, and I wonder if doing song/tune challenges might be fun on FOTMD?

A Flickr challenge is a discussion topic in which someone invites other photographers to submit a photograph on a particular topic or using a particular technique.

An example of an FOTMD challenge might look like this.

Jean Ritchie Challenge: Record a public-domain song or tune that Jean Ritchie has recorded at some point in her career. Audio, video, as well as newly performed and archival performances are welcome. Use the playing style of your choice (e.g. chordal or melody-drone). Record an instrumental or accompany yourself singing. There are no restrictions on key, tuning, or mode. The only additonal requirement is that you play and sing it yourself. Please submit entries by##/##/2010.

Flickr experience suggests that it is best to get an administrator's approval before posting challenges to a subject-oriented group.

Most challenges don't have a contest format with voting, winners and losers. People just post their own efforts and comment on those of other posters.

Flickr people describe challenges as being a lot of fun and as great motivators.

I wonder if there would be interest in challenges here on FOTMD?

(Edited this to shorten it.)


updated by @flint-hill: 02/17/19 06:25:20PM
folkfan
@folkfan
04/07/10 11:59:07AM
357 posts

Do You Have A Favorite Irish Song?


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I can't really imagine slowing "The Little Beggerman" down, but I'm sort of set in my ways having heard it played and sung like this:
for so many decades (DECADES????????????) Oh well. :-) Paul Elliot Bostick said:
Song speed. I can play Begger Man fast, I learned from the Arlo version. Later I was playing at a camper rally and a guitar player asked me why I played everthing so fast, I just leared it that way. Over time I worked on slowing things down and found I can play a slow bluesy tempo to a lot of fast paced songs. It makes for something different and helps me learn the fast ones by working at a slower place. Little Begger man slowed down is one I really enjoy playing.
folkfan
@folkfan
04/07/10 11:56:55AM
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Great story. It's marvelous that you were able to get the mementos back to the lady in England. That's sweet and truly brings a "tear to the e'e". Paul Elliot Bostick said:
Littler Beggar Man and how things crossed the Pond.

During the 70's I was in Mississippi visiting my grandmother, mom and I went junk shop browsing. In the shop I found a portable letter writing box, it's wood with two front door that open up to show all kinds of small nooks and crannies and such. I was told it came in from a shipment from England, so I bought it. After getting back to my grandmothers house I realize that when you tilted it there was something moving around in the bottom of it. Unknown to me (and apparently everyone else) there is a small slide out drawer that had become stuck. When I finally got it open, I found it was packed full of all kinds of wonderful things like a piano tuning receipt from the late 1800,s, letters, a glass plate photo negative, and report cards from two girls during the 1940s. There were many references to a small town on the coast of southern England. I never really had a way of following up on the information before the internet so it slid by. Several years later, I had picked up a dulcimer. I play by ear and was trying to pick up the tune Red Haired Boy from an Arlo Guthrie album, (the fact that Arlo does not annunciate clearly when he is singing fast did not help). I wrote a note to Dulcimer Player news about my need for the words. Sometime later, I got a message from a gentleman in England who advised me that he knew the song as Little Beggerman and he provided the lyrics that he knew of. It also turned out that he lived a few miles down the road from the little sea side town mentioned in my letterbox letters. I wrote him and asked that if he was ever down the road could he stop into the local newspaper/or provide me the address. He did both, as well as relaying my story to the paper that then ran a story. I was then contacted by an elderly lady from the seaside town who advised: The letter box had belonged to her mother. The report cards were hers and her sisters (she said the sister died very young from an illness and she had very few mementos of her). The box had been sold as part of the mothers estate; no one knew there was a drawer or what was in it. I made copies of all the material and then sent the originals to her. She did send me a copy of the local paper that had done a follow story about the little letter box and its trip across the pond. So now, every time I play Little Beggerman I remember my box, the letters, and the story behind it.
Paul Rappell
@paul-rappell
04/06/10 10:32:59PM
31 posts

Do You Have A Favorite Irish Song?


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"Down by the Sally Garden", an old standby.
folkfan
@folkfan
04/06/10 09:49:43PM
357 posts

Do You Have A Favorite Irish Song?


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Little Beggerman is a good song, though a bit fast for me. I'd love hearing it and have since the Clancys and Tommy Makem started recording. Though I'm still fairly computer illiterate, I was library literate when it came to borrowing song books and xeroxing everything I knew how to sing. That's why recently, I finally did a TAB toss out of all the songs I'd copied and partially tabbed, but know I'm never going to actually play.So take the time and tell us how you found your music for "Little Beggerman". Paul Elliot Bostick said:
"Little Beggerman" is a favorite. Took me a long time, and a very interesting story, to find the lyrics back in the pre-computer and internet day. Still a favorite.
folkfan
@folkfan
04/02/10 10:37:49AM
357 posts

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Definitely a song about the Jacobite Rebellion and Bonnie Prince Charlie, Will Ye No Come Back Again, was written by Carolina Oliphant, Lady Nairne (1766-1845). And she was a prolific Scottish songwriter. I just got a marvelous CD of her works sung by Anne Lorne Gilles, titled "White Rose of June". The White Rose is associated with Bonnie Charlie as was the White Cockade. George Wentland said:
I think at the moment "Will Ye No' Come Back Again" is my favorite. Tho I am not sure if it's Scotish or Irish.
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
04/02/10 10:29:14AM
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Carrickfergus is a tune I've loved since I first heard it on a Chieftains album nearly 40 years ago!
Strumelia
@strumelia
04/02/10 10:12:06AM
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George Wentland said:
I think at the moment "Will Ye No' Come Back Again" is my favorite. Tho I am not sure if it's Scotish or Irish.
oh George, I used to LOVE playing and singing that song years ago. It's so beautiful. It does have kind of a 'Scottish-y' flavor to it, doesn't it?
Paul Rappell
@paul-rappell
03/22/10 01:38:13PM
31 posts

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Rats! Then it's not my new favourite "Irish song"! It's still good, though. John Shaw said:
"John of Dreams" was written by the English songwriter Bill Caddick. It has been taken up by a lot of people, including quite a number of Irish singers (Christy Moore, for one). Bill inadvertently borrowed most of the opening musical phrase from Tchaikovsky's "Pathetique"!
John Shaw
@john-shaw
03/22/10 10:49:01AM
60 posts

Do You Have A Favorite Irish Song?


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"John of Dreams" was written by the English songwriter Bill Caddick. It has been taken up by a lot of people, including quite a number of Irish singers (Christy Moore, for one). Bill inadvertently borrowed most of the opening musical phrase from Tchaikovsky's "Pathetique"!
razyn
@razyn
03/22/10 09:17:44AM
51 posts

Do You Have A Favorite Irish Song?


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Paul Rappell said:
Well, I have a new favourite Irish song... It's "John of Dreams" performed (perhaps written?) by Mick Moloney... Anyone else know it?
Don't know the song, actually -- but I used to know Mick pretty well, and he's an approachable sort of person. He has a very nice website, and it has an "email Mick" link, if you want to ask him. http://www.mickmoloney.com/index.html
Paul Rappell
@paul-rappell
03/22/10 02:40:00AM
31 posts

Do You Have A Favorite Irish Song?


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Well, I have a new favourite Irish song. I have it on a 1998 compilation CD called Songs from the Heart - A collection of Irish Ballads. It's "John of Dreams" performed (perhaps written?) by Mick Moloney. It had completely slipped by me until recently, when I put the CD on for the first time in years and this one really hit. Anyone else know it?Pair it with Kate Rusby's "Old Man Time" for a couple of moving tunes from the British Isles.
B. Ross Ashley
@b-ross-ashley
03/21/10 03:32:47AM
59 posts

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I know which one you mean, Ken, we sang it last Saturday night at Song Circle ... but the title escapes me. I don't have a copy of Rise Up Singing, but it is in there. Ken Hulme said:
My Bad!
John Shaw
@john-shaw
03/20/10 07:00:31AM
60 posts

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You're quite right, folkfan - "Long Black Veil" is an American country song. It was written by Danny Dill and Marijohn Wilkin, and was first recorded by Lefty Frizzell in 1959. A great song, but definitely not Irish.
folkfan
@folkfan
03/19/10 09:32:23PM
357 posts

Do You Have A Favorite Irish Song?


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Ken, Is the Long Black Veil really Irish in origin? I've always associated it with American Country. I know that the Chieftains have it on an album, but that's the only Irish group that I've ever heard do it. Ken Hulme said:
The Long Black Veil....
Stephanie Stuckwisch
@stephanie-stuckwisch
03/19/10 12:59:44PM
45 posts

Do You Have A Favorite Irish Song?


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Mo Ghile Mear is great tune. My favorite Irish tune is Siuil a Run. It's a lament for a lover who's gone overseas to fight.
Paul Rappell
@paul-rappell
03/18/10 11:34:57AM
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Thanks for this. It's a terrific song!There are other versions there, too. I also enjoyed the one from the Highland Sessions, also with Mary Black.Makes you want to learn Gaelic!Paul folkfan said:
I meant to add a YouTube, but don't know how to embed it, so here's the site

folkfan
@folkfan
03/17/10 10:16:04PM
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I meant to add a YouTube, but don't know how to embed it, so here's the site
folkfan
@folkfan
03/17/10 10:13:16PM
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I have a favorite Irish song, Mo Ghile Mear. The funny thing is, is that it's about Bonnie Prince Charlie.



How's that for combining an interest in the music and history.

updated by @folkfan: 06/11/15 07:23:48AM
Flint Hill
@flint-hill
10/23/12 10:40:21PM
62 posts

Musical Traditions Dulcimer circa 1980


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Hi Ken and Stephen.

As far as I have been able to determine, The Sandpoint MT dulcimers have no connection to Hank or to his instruments. It appears to be a independent use of the name. The two principals at Sandpoint, ID were John Rourke and Larry Kiefer, two of the signatories mentioned above.

Larry Kiefer may be the same person who galvanized the Wichita, KS folk scene in the early 1960s.

That's everything I've been able to learn about the instrument.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
10/23/12 10:23:12PM
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Musical Traditions Dulcimer circa 1980


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I think Hank Levin now lives in California. He no longer makes mountain dulcimers. I have a web site somewhere for his current endeavors. If I can find it, I will post it here. I, too, have a MT dulcimer which is all cherry with the Grover tuners.

Ken

I found it. Here it is: http://www.musicaravan.com/home

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/12/10 09:01:27AM
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Musical Traditions Dulcimer circa 1980


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Sandpoint, ID rings a bell from somewhere. It's such a hole-in-the-wall kinda place for a dulcimer shop... Ask Robert Force - www.robertforce.com . I seem to remember he and Albert knew this outfit, or had some connection to it. Another one to ask might be Lance Frodsham, another of the early Pacific Rim project folks.
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/11/10 08:47:26PM
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Musical Traditions Dulcimer circa 1980


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Musical Traditions2375 Edgewater TerraceLos Angeles, Cal. 90039p121May have no connection to your luthiers. . .
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/11/10 05:29:58PM
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Musical Traditions Dulcimer circa 1980


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Ken,You probably already know that Jean Ritchie, in her Dulcimer People, includes a shop of that name in a "Where To Buy" section, located in Los Angeles.Good luck in your search!
Flint Hill
@flint-hill
03/10/10 08:10:41PM
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Musical Traditions Dulcimer circa 1980


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I would be grateful to hear from anyone who knows anything about this instrument.

A family dulcimer passed into my hands in December, 2009. It belonged to a old-time music lover named Fidello Henderson from Henderson North Carolina. He got it from a friend about 25 years ago, and he passed away four years ago. It's a Musical Traditions hourglass from Sandpoint, Idaho, circa 1980. It has a sweet, dark, old-time sound.

The fret wear indicates that it was played noter-drone style.

Old dulcimer, new to me


Dulcimer Peghead

Here are the specifications:

Description:
Type: Four-string (doubled-melody) walnut or poplar hourglass with scroll pegbox, four heart-shaped soundholes and no 6+ fret.
Built late 1970s or early 1980s.
Strings: 0.010 x 2, 0.014, 0.023 (not original)
Tuners: Sta-Tune nickel-plated friction tuners, black plastic keystone buttons.

Label (three hand-written signatures)
MUSICAL TRADITIONS John Rourke, Larry Kiefer, Gordy Robinson
Sandpoint, Idaho
1385

Dimensions, inches:
Length: 35.5
Height, soundbox: 2.0
Height, fretboard; 0.75
Height, overall, including strings: 2.88
VSL: 28
Width, upper bout: 4.75
Width, lower bout: 5.75
Pegbox walls: ~0.18
Pegbox holes: ~0.27

Musical Traditions was associated with the Guitar's Friend music store in Sandpoint. Guitars Friend later relocated to Moscow, ID. The shop and dulcimer operation were written up in the Marketplace Section of Canadian Folk Music Bulletin , Volume 1.5, 1978. In this article, Musical Traditions is said to have made dulcimers for Jean Ritchie:

Jean Ritchie is probably the most well-known of mountain-dulcimer players. The fact that she has "Musical Traditions," the dulcimer company at "Guitar's Friend," making dulcimers for her own sales service indicates the quality of those instruments.

Musical Traditions also sold this dulcimer as a kit, although mine appears to have been shop-built in Sandpoint. Here's an exploded diagram from an advertisement in Dulcimer Players News, Fall 1981, p22. It appears identical to the instrument that I have. (Thanks to Dan Landrum for permission to use this advertisement)

Musical Traditions dulcimer kit advertisement

I found one reference to a more elaborate Musical Traditions instrument on Everything Dulcimer in 2005. I will post additional information here if I learn more about the instrument.



updated by @flint-hill: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
folkfan
@folkfan
03/09/10 08:18:47PM
357 posts

If you could only keep ONE of your dulcimers....


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I can agree with you completely. It's like trying to pick your favorite child. Kendra Ward said:
Ohhhh noooooo! Strumelia! This is toooooo hard! :-(

I could never choose. I would have to have someone else choose for me and just go with that. Does anyone want to volunteer? We could make it a game-I could give you all the pro's of all of them and you decide! :-)

Sorry I can't make up my mind? ? ? ? ? ? ? . . . . . . . . haha (what mind I do have!)

There are a few that I guess I could give up, but can we rephrase the question as to which 10-20-30 instruments would you keep? Oh, Strumelia . . . . . . . . . . .
Kendra Ward
@kendra-ward
03/09/10 06:19:16PM
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If you could only keep ONE of your dulcimers....


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Ohhhh noooooo! Strumelia! This is toooooo hard! :-(I could never choose. I would have to have someone else choose for me and just go with that. Does anyone want to volunteer? We could make it a game-I could give you all the pro's of all of them and you decide! :-)Sorry I can't make up my mind? ? ? ? ? ? ? . . . . . . . . haha (what mind I do have!)There are a few that I guess I could give up, but can we rephrase the question as to which 10-20-30 instruments would you keep? Oh, Strumelia . . . . . . . . . . .
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